Health & Safety in Spain, does it exist? - Page 2

ukshopping · 07-11-2009, 02:12

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Originally Posted by JazminesII

Nothing surprises me....I've seen Spanish builders are work....no hardhats, throwing bricks to each other, no safety harnesses........

But you know what, they were having a great time at work.......

Yet if those same builers are building a single storey property, the H&S laws stae they have to have crane!

calpe1stop · 28-12-2009, 12:35

Hmm building site H&S, like taking off sandles and putting trainers on to go on site or walking wheel barrows over a 10 metre drop on a plank held in place by "rapido" which has bee set 5 minutes!

CDThader · 28-12-2009, 13:23

With too many people chasing too few jobs, many employers have the attitude that if you don't want to work long hours for little pay, there is someone else out there who is desperate enough to take your job.

baldilocks · 28-12-2009, 13:34

My Spanish builder supplies all the equipment, gives them training and tells them that they have got to use the PPE, etc. but as soon as his back is turned.....

28-12-2009, 22:13

Great isn't it?... keeps the hospitals in trade. It is only recently up here that scaffolding has stopped been wooden poles lashed together, and let into the side of the building, I used to cringe.

I was talking to a friend recently and his neighbour had been working two stories up on a rickety ladder, when he challenged the neighbour, the man said, "It's OK, I'm tied on", he had a washing line tied around his waste lashed to an asbestos gutter!!!!!!!

JazminesII · 29-12-2009, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadiar

Great isn't it?... keeps the hospitals in trade. It is only recently up here that scaffolding has stopped been wooden poles lashed together, and let into the side of the building, I used to cringe.

I was talking to a friend recently and his neighbour had been working two stories up on a rickety ladder, when he challenged the neighbour, the man said, "It's OK, I'm tied on", he had a washing line tied around his waste lashed to an asbestos gutter!!!!!!!

It's quite scary isn't it but then again better that than the other extreme which is how the UK has gone

valenciaholiday · 29-12-2009, 11:30

I remember when I had a friend visiting, as we passed a garage a worker picked up a high jet air gun and blasted something off the car he was working on.. my friend said to do the same thing in his job he had to sign a form, put on safety gear and then register what he had done! a 2 second job turned into a major operation!! (maybe a little bit of exageration, but only a little!). Common sense seems to be missing from the H&S that it is now overly exagerated in the UK, ok here it is perhaps a little too lapse, a happy medium must be out there!?

rspltd · 06-01-2010, 16:37

This is the latest published figures.

Year Great Britain Germany France Italy Spain EU average
2002 1632 4082 4887 3387 6728 3528
2003 1614 3674 4689 3267 6520 3328
2004 1336 3618 4434 3098 6054 3172
2005 1271 3233 4448 2900 5715 3097
2006 1135 3276 4022 2812 5533 3014

Too much regulation in the UK?? I know which I prefer.

baldilocks · 06-01-2010, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by rspltd

This is the latest published figures.

Year Great Britain Germany France Italy Spain EU average
2002 1632 4082 4887 3387 6728 3528
2003 1614 3674 4689 3267 6520 3328
2004 1336 3618 4434 3098 6054 3172
2005 1271 3233 4448 2900 5715 3097
2006 1135 3276 4022 2812 5533 3014

Too much regulation in the UK?? I know which I prefer.

Sorry but to what are you referring, accidents?, deaths? injuries?

rspltd · 06-01-2010, 17:01

Over three day injury.
Comparable Fatality rates are:

Year GreatBritainGermanyFranceItalySpainEU average
2002 1.4 2.5 2.6 2.1 4.3 2.5
2003 1.1 2.3 2.8 2.8 3.7 2.5
2004 1.4 2.2 2.7 2.5 3.2 2.4
2005 1.4 1.8 2.0 2.6 3.5 2.3
2006 1.3 2.1 3.4 2.9 3.5 2.5

28-12-2009, 12:35	#12 (permalink)
calpe1stop calpe1stop is.... Established Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: calpe spain Posts: 107 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Rep Power: 16	JazminesII Hmm building site H&S, like taking off sandles and putting trainers on to go on site or walking wheel barrows over a 10 metre drop on a plank held in place by "rapido" which has bee set 5 minutes!

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rspltd rspltd is.... Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: La Zenia, Alicante Y UK Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Health & Safety Comparisons This is the latest published figures. Year Great Britain Germany France Italy Spain EU average 2002 1632 4082 4887 3387 6728 3528 2003 1614 3674 4689 3267 6520 3328 2004 1336 3618 4434 3098 6054 3172 2005 1271 3233 4448 2900 5715 3097 2006 1135 3276 4022 2812 5533 3014 Too much regulation in the UK?? I know which I prefer.

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cadiar cadiar is.... Edit Guest Posts: n/a	Great isn't it?... keeps the hospitals in trade. It is only recently up here that scaffolding has stopped been wooden poles lashed together, and let into the side of the building, I used to cringe. I was talking to a friend recently and his neighbour had been working two stories up on a rickety ladder, when he challenged the neighbour, the man said, "It's OK, I'm tied on", he had a washing line tied around his waste lashed to an asbestos gutter!!!!!!!

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